Jodie (00:05)
I walked in and I was like, wow, the podcast looks super fun.

Host (00:09)
family and I were out for a Saturday morning hike down in Gallagher's and ⁓ it's so beautiful down there, the greenway. we're coming back and we saw your place. We're like, there's coffee. We're from the flats. We very seldom go up to Southeast except to ride bikes, but we go a different route. we randomly stopped into frequency. And then it's this little

oasis a little gem in the middle of kind of the middle of nowhere in that being there's not an urban center you're out and

It's all farmland and orchards and all that. And so, we walk in and the vibe you got going there is absolutely spectacular. the kids could play with all the instruments. Riley got on that drum kit right away. A real drum kit. I can touch it. ⁓ And then Lynn was like, and you make noise. So she was absolutely floored by that.

Where are you born and raised?

Jodie (01:08)
Born and raised in Calgary. actually. Inner city, more or less like Maland Heights was where I kind of grew up.

Host (01:14)
I went to university so I have a little bit of ⁓ knowledge of the city.

Jodie (01:17)
Okay, pretty

much inner city. I've always lived in and around like downtown or the neighborhoods outside, just outside of downtown.

Host (01:26)
what brought you,

Jodie (01:27)
we would come out here every summer or every other summer to camp as a family and then maybe 10 years ago my sister moved out here to finish her masters. She has since completed her PhD and now she's living in Innsbruck in Austria.

at the and working at the university there. So it's really, really cool. I was really close with my sister growing up. And then when I started dating my current partner now, my fiance, his music partner was moving out to Kelowna as well, kind of around that time. maybe five years before that, my mom moved out this way to Enderby. So my partner and I are together. We're in Calgary. We're just sitting in rush hour traffic and we're like, why are we here?

what are we doing? our core is in Kelowna now. Never really had a desire to move out here. I just always knew it was beautiful. I always wanted to be in BC, but that moment was okay, your partner's out there, my sister's out there, my mom's out there, let's go to Kelowna. that was probably eight years ago now. when we got out here, I stopped scaffolding. That was my career before. was a...

journeyman scaffolder, journeywoman scaffolder. when I came out here, I wanted to pursue music, full tilt, full on. I thought, okay, if I'm gonna be out here working on music, I need a couple part-time jobs just to keep me going. one of those jobs was I was trying to seek out a studio. I found Frequency Winery, which is what the business was called previously. It was owned by Tony Lewis.

And the principle of the winery was they would have free recordings limited to 30 minute sessions and the artists that came in to record, we'd then use their frequencies, their sounds recordings to help clarify the sediment from the wine. Tony realized this because his parents owned vibrant vine. He would be drumming in his parents basement where all the wine barrels were. And he found that the wine barrels closest

to the drum kit were settling much quicker and tasting much different. he kind of dove into the science of how sediment falls within sound and vibration and displayed this with a cladney plate, spelled C-H-L-A-D-N-I, a cladney plate by Ernst Cladney. It's basically a metal plate that sits on top of a speaker cone and then you put a specific note or frequency in it.

and then you can see what that frequency looks like. But it's not all sounds, it's specifically harmonic frequencies. Because where the sound waves are colliding with each other, they create these really clean pockets of phase cancellation, which creates these really beautiful geometric shapes and patterns. It's quite stunning to see. with that, he started Frequency Winery, and then that was a pretty successful business, and then...

Life just took him elsewhere. He went to Nicaragua and I started working there while he was still there as a tasting host for the winery. And I wanted to get involved with the studio. I wanted to learn more about it because at this point I was really just a musician and artist. I started dabbling in producing mostly just for myself but I just wanted to know and learn all things music and try and surround myself with it as much as possible. But it was your kind of

typical studio scenario where it's really just a job for one person and that job was already taken at the time. So I just did my job there as a tasting host and giving tastings to you know, the Kelowna Stag at parties and just the same group after the same group is not what I had in mind, this is not what I pictured when I was gonna be moving to Kelowna and working with music.

eventually five years later that person stepped down and the time came where I could fill his shoes in the studio. So that's what I did. I started learning about it and really stepping into that. And then the ownership changed. Tony had sold it to his parents. He moved to Nicaragua and then COVID happened. there was kind of a lot of changes and then no changes at all. it was really quiet there for a long time.

in those moments of just kind of me being alone a lot at the studio, I was like, place needs people. It needs community. It needs as many people in here as possible. just doing their creative work at all times. Because that's kind of what it was before with having so many artists come in for free. when I hit this like quiet lull period, I was like, this is weird.

We've got to this. So I made them an offer on the business and I bought it with my mom. We went in on it together. since then, we didn't really totally feel aligned with the winery side of things energetically mostly because there's a few reasons, but mostly we just didn't really want the winery side of things in there. I thought after working up in that area for five years,

knowing that there was not much up in East Kelowna for a cup of coffee or something to eat. I wanted to fill that gap. I wanted to fill that gap for the community. I reached out to the owner of the bean scene because I was like, I love your coffee shop. I'm in there hanging out all the time. You have good baked goods, good food, good coffee. I want to do something like this, but

Host (06:25)
Yeah.

Jodie (06:42)
I don't know where to start. I've never ran a coffee shop. I don't know. I've never even worked in a coffee shop. I just know I love it. ⁓ And Al was nice enough to reach back out to me almost right away. And he said, Hey, I'm actually like an old, like a retired sound engineer. would love to help you out. So he came up to frequency and he said, okay, this is where you should put your bar. This would, it's like, you know what, actually in my

Host (06:48)
the vibe.

Jodie (07:07)
the bean scene downtown is closing, so why don't you come down and we'll give you bunch of wholesale some of our equipment to you. It perfect timing. And Al was a really, really great mentor and just help and still is. So then we started up the coffee shop and it started this beautiful community that I didn't even know existed up there because as a tasting host, I was always meeting tourists. Nobody local goes to wineries unless they're showing their...

Host (07:37)
often. Yeah.

Jodie (07:38)
Unless

they're showing their company, right? Like what Okanagan has to offer. I was always meeting tourists, always meeting people from elsewhere, which was nice. since the coffee shop, now I'm meeting people that have been in that area for 35 years or that have just moved in that area but hasn't met anybody else. And now they're meeting their neighbors. They're meeting each other. They've lived next door to each other for 20 years. And it's so beautiful to see and witness. I just never expected that. And so that's been really

Really cool. Very fulfilling to be wow, what a beautiful community up here.

Host (08:07)
Filling.

you're bringing it all it's a spot to bring it all together yeah and then you're getting to know them because you're now seeing familiar faces and then getting to know them personally and it all adds to that feeling of connectedness to yeah the place and yeah

Jodie (08:26)
Yeah, it's

beautiful. always joke it's a place where you can you know, trade coffee for a dozen of eggs or, regular turkey bacon or whatever. because it's back, you know, farmers up there, the horses are walking by on the road and just, just makes you feel good of Hey, we can do this together again, back it was a hundred years ago almost, but with a bit more advanced rate.

Host (08:32)
They barter,

Yeah.

Getting back to that face-to-face contact. That's really, really cool.

Jodie (08:50)
Yeah.

because the music was always such a big part of the business previously, and that's what my passion is, I wanted to keep that going as well. basically there's kind of three parts to the business. It's coffee, plants, and music. the music has always been there. It's just the studio that's been ongoing since Frequency Winery, which is now called Frequency Sound 528 for 528 hertz.

Host (09:16)
I'm thinking, I'm like, has to do somewhere.

Jodie (09:18)
Yeah, which is like the love and light frequency and we just feel really strongly passionate about admitting that frequency as much as possible, the frequency of love and gratitude. And it was Tony's philosophy too. He had a saying up on on the wall, here's to letting go of limiting beliefs and finding gratitude to be our permanent attitude. So seeing a combination of how

gratitude at the forefront of the building plus watching people come in and see the science of sound essentially and how that looks. Those two components were really pivotal that I was like we have to keep these you know moving forward because it changes people when they've never seen sound and how beautiful and geometric it can be. You think about this light here beside us you don't see the light waves that are coming to our eyes but doesn't mean they don't exist.

It's the same with the sound. And so when we see something like that, it really opens up our minds to what other waves can't we see that maybe others can, right? Or maybe different insects or bugs can. And what the human eye can actually perceive on the grand scale of different waves in our atmosphere is pretty miniscule. So that would always be a nice conversation for people, because then we start talking about

Spirits energies when you walk into a room after fights been broken out like there's nothing needs to be said But you feel it right you feel that energy and so having these conversations with people there's an energy that's been like seeped into the walls up there and that's what I felt I really had to kind of protect when the

when COVID had happened and ownership was changing and I just felt things changing in there. was like, I know I need, there was just too much vulnerability that has been in this space. It's sacred and I need to protect it. So I feel like I've just kind of been the caretaker that never left. that's the music side of things. And then there's the coffee shop side of things and the plants. because we're on the ALR, we also

grow and produce a lot of our own products we do canning and preserving and know, pickling beets, carrots, all that stuff. And then also sell some of our neighbors, our lovely neighbors up there like Tabba there and back again. They're amazing. You should have them on here. that's kind of what we've been doing there. it's a family-run business trying to keep community together, trying to spread.

Host (11:37)
They're

Jodie (11:44)
Love, and light, gratitude as much as we can.

Host (11:48)
it feels so good up there. And you have that rooftop patio, is absolutely spectacular. You host events on the

Jodie (11:52)
Yeah.

Yeah,

we're actually coming into our third year of ownership, but when I bought the business, I found out I was pregnant. we had a lot of life stuff happen in between and it was just really busy. the coffee shop's only been open for a year now. we're really just kind of getting into things now. this summer we are launching our concert series and we'll have live music three times a month at least.

we have an open mic night. It's the second Wednesday of each month. It's free. It's all ages. It's amazing. It's so good. I have yet to come across a space in Kelowna or elsewhere where I've been able to sit and listen to music and nobody's talking. Nobody's on their phones. Everybody's really present and it's so beautiful. Kelowna hosts so many amazing artists. There's so many good artists here.

Host (12:39)
present.

Jodie (12:47)
that's been really cool to see the talent that comes through there, the songwriting, the... I just cry every time. I'm not a big crier, but when I am in that room for Open Mic, it's beautiful. It's so beautiful, the songs that they share and the stories that they tell. So yeah, the second Wednesday of every month. And then the concert series is the second Friday and last Friday of every month, except for June. June, varies a little bit.

But yeah, we'll have a poster up on our website and on our socials, which is just frequency sound 528 very soon. it'll kind of go over a list of all the artists that'll be playing there all summer long. Yeah, weather dependent, we'll have them up top.

Host (13:24)
And do they play up top?

that's so cool. it's such a good space.

Jodie (13:31)
Yeah, and we'll have some more stuff we always hear the comment too that like the outside does not represent what's kind of outside. Not yet. Not yet. Exactly. It's really just because of time and money really, right? We have to start somewhere. we've been really cultivating the vibe, the energy inside.

Host (13:37)
No, no, not yet.

And

the inside is blows your mind. Yeah, it just feels so good. You walk in.

Jodie (13:52)
Yeah, it's definitely a beautiful vibe in there. so this spring summer, we're trying to get our butts in gear to let the outside amplify that.

Host (14:02)
you had mentioned earlier that you see horses in southeast Kelowna. Yeah Now for all of you in southeast Kelowna, this is probably an everyday experience for you. But for the rest of us We don't see horses all the time. Well, we see them driving by right on gourd and you drive by the whole horse pastures we're up there on the On the rooftop having a coffee and all of a sudden there's a lady on her horse on the road just plotting plotting by

And it just blew my daughter's mind. They're six and eight. They're just like, what the heck? And I thought, oh, this is such a cool experience because how many cities do you get to go and sit somewhere and there's just this horse walking by? not very many, I thought, oh, this is cool. another thing that occurred to me when you were talking about the open mic night, is it's for anybody, kids too,

think of the individuals who it could be their very first time ever performing in front of somebody and they're thinking of the night because they know they're going to go on and the anxiety the anticipation the excitement and they're waiting for their turn and then they get the courage to actually walk up to the mic in front of everybody and play their instrument and that is a

What do you call those memories? A foundational memory or a core memory? You have a place for people to actually have core memories of their life and these big moments from that space that you've created.

Jodie (15:31)
It's so cool. It's full circle for me as well because I grew up playing music and in bands and with a family band and busking. I went through a period where I didn't touch music at all. I hadn't even written my own song at this point. stepping back into music, I started attending open mics in Calgary. I was doing an open mic every night of the week just to kind of get to know the community and start.

finding inspiration to write songs and I was just going with an acoustic guitar the community there was so beautiful I would notice the same people that would go to the Monday one or the Wednesday one, Friday one, I met this guy, True Knot, Brayden, and he had a looping pedal there and that's when I started fiddling around with the looping pedal. to have a space now that has these open mics is so full circle because that was really what started my whole journey.

this point and actually there's a local young singer named Bella she was attending her open mics has been more recently and she just wrote her first song and performed it for the first time at the open mic the other night so that was really special to see too.

Host (16:39)
That's really cool. What instrument did you start on as a kid? Really? as your first instrument, not the piano, just straight into the harmonica?

Jodie (16:43)
Harmonica.

No, because

I was probably two or three years old. My dad was a blues harmonica player, so he would lay me on his belly and we would both be looking up at the ceiling and then he would point to blow in or out on the harmonica and then I could feel his breath on his belly and that's what I kind of started with was harmonica, just fiddling around with that and then piano, we learned piano.

⁓ Quickly forgot it after I'd like to know more of it now because it's so Foundational I feel when people ask me like what their kids should learn first. I'm like probably piano Yeah, then it went to guitar and My dad liked to introduce instruments and lessons every year. it went to accordion

Host (17:23)
Yeah, get your scales.

Jodie (17:35)
mandolin, violin, trumpet. For my sister it was saxophone, cello, yeah.

Host (17:45)
What was the most challenging instrument out of all those do think?

Jodie (17:48)
probably trumpet. ⁓

I'm gonna say trumpet. Everything was challenging in their own way. when we first started the accordion, we were so small, we actually didn't have the muscle strength to open and close the accordion.

Host (18:01)
I can just see you standing like this giant

Jodie (18:04)
It was a button accordion nonetheless, so button accordions are different than a keyboard. my dad would have to get us to do push-ups just so we could build up the strength to open the accordion. the accordion, the violin, the violin was a rough one to learn too because you gotta have a ear. And it sounds so awful when you don't have the right bow movement. It's really screechy. And of course, my dad decided a good time to

learned the violin was on a road trip to Newfoundland. a week long road trip with my family. hey, get to Manitoba. It's like, in the back seat, there's a violin you're gonna learn.

Host (18:38)
Were you playing it in the vehicle as he was driving?

Jodie (18:42)
Yeah, it was awful. But out of all that, the trumpet, would say was the most difficult because you only have three buttons and you have to find that whole, all these notes just within those three buttons. Whereas the violin, any stringed instrument, any keyed instrument, you can find the note. I learned predominantly by ear.

Host (18:46)
They a lot of patience for each other.

Jodie (19:08)
I don't really, can't, I don't want to say I can't read music, I just never learned that way, I always learned by ear. So any note that I'd be trying to find, I could find it. But with the trumpet, you can't really just pull a note out of the sky, you have to, your armature, or you have to like purse your lips in a certain way and think about the note and then try and get the right fingering and anyways, it was just-

Host (19:31)
If you leave your finger at the same, well they would have to, the same push and yeah, that's what I to say. Based on how you're blowing you can produce different notes. I would.

Jodie (19:35)
I think it's three notes.

That's like a high, medium, and low for

each finger progression, I think. ⁓

Host (19:48)
Okay,

because I always thought the violin- Mackenzie's really interested in the violin and we're not much of a music family- we dabble but we're not a music family There's no fret. you need an ear to be able to know like yeah, I feel like you should learn the piano first so you can understand the The scales and the notes and all but what do I know, you know, but she loves the idea of the violin anyways Cool. I'm sure once if she were to actually

She might think twice, but you never know. Played properly. I think you have one at the... Yeah. At the... Because she saw it on the wall and she's I want to play that. well, you probably could one day try it, you know?

Jodie (20:27)
anytime you guys are up there again, learn to help. She's absolutely welcome.

Host (20:30)
Okay, when I was in a residence at U of C there was a lady at the very end of the hallway and she played the violin. she played the violin in a way where she didn't have a choice. her parents forced her to play the violin from a very young age and she was absolutely astounding. It was incredible. And then she had reached that age where she then appreciated it. Yeah.

because now she was older and I got this skill and very unique skill and you're very good at it. So that was pretty cool to see.

Jodie (21:05)
I feel like there's probably a lot of, I I resonate with that story, but I'm sure there's others as well, maybe we're forced to do something at a younger age that they learn to kind of grow out of or resent and then later on in their life, they're like, wow, this is just muscle memory now. This is pretty cool that I know how to do this. Thanks to our parents forcing us to do it. ⁓

Host (21:25)
And the fact that you play with your ear is it kind of reminds me like it's an analogy to Lego. You know there's the two different Lego types. The one is you have to follow the instructions in the book and you follow the guidelines and you build to the build. And then there's the other group where it's all free. you have your blocks and you create and you imagine and you just build whatever you want to build. And I feel

Perhaps in music it might be kind of similar. You have the people who read music and can play then you have the individuals who can just feel it and pull it and create it with their fingertips sort of thing. ⁓

Jodie (22:01)
And then you get some incredible people that can do both. Yeah. So a lot of talented artists, producers, musicians out there that can do both. And that's a great asset.

Host (22:04)
Yeah.

how many studios are there in Kelowna? Are there many?

Jodie (22:16)
There's a few, yeah, there's a few newer ones popping up. some of the older ones that have been around for a while is like Ark House by Adam Witkey another one that Dan owns. I can't remember the name of his studio. there's a few newer ones popping up like Union Studios from Jeff Wilson and The Vault.

recordings downtown on Bernard Hayden Burton has recently taken that over and has done an amazing job kind of renovating it and starting it over so there's

Host (22:49)
Do you all keep in touch and meet up every once in a while?

Jodie (22:52)
Yeah, I know Hayden and Jeff personally, they're friends of mine, but our studios kind of offer different things as well. Mine is a little bit more, I don't know, organic, grassroots, you're kind of out in the country, it's definitely a different vibe than say Jeff's studio, which is almost more electronic based and it's really top quality audio equipment.

Hayden's is just right downtown. So we kind of serve different locations as well, offer different things, but yeah, we all talk.

Host (23:22)
Your tattoo there is that...

Jodie (23:25)
Oh yeah, it's an audio wav file of my daughter laughing.

Host (23:29)
my goodness, that is so, that's creative.

you get that idea from?

Jodie (23:38)
I just, this is kind of my language. I see so many audio waves every day. It's what I work with and that's how I read things. I just thought it would be cool to have my daughters who's only two and a half. So that's why.

Host (23:52)
They have the best, laugh of life is when they're at that age.

Jodie (23:54)
Yeah, yeah.

So I just thought that would be, ⁓ I wanted to get something for her when she was born, you know, and I ⁓ I'll not get it like how my language is perceived to me.

Host (24:06)
Yeah. I love it.

Jodie (24:08)
Thanks.

Thank you.

Host (24:10)
Anything else you want to touch on or talk about?

Jodie (24:14)
I think as much as we will be including more live music up there, I think we'll also be branching out into more workshop related stuff up there as well. teaching people about their local plants that grow in their area, how they can be used to forage and how healing they can be, different sound therapy, healing benefits.

We'll be doing yoga up on the roof every Sunday for sunsets. Sunday or Friday, can't remember. Rachel Geek will let us know about that. definitely more workshops and definitely more community focused events that help each other heal and create.

Host (24:52)
You got such a good thing going up there. It's going to be just imagine it in a couple of years. Yeah. Which you've already created and.

Jodie (24:59)
I would

just love to go into a coffee shop and have a healthy superfood latte. I know you can buy them in the stores and stuff, but it's nice to go into a cafe and not always have caffeine, right? But actually maybe have like a different blend of mushrooms that you know is really healing for you and your nervous system. my friend Danielle Crowe, who owns Ethereal Inc. She did this tattoo. She's really

really well versed in knowing all the different wild plants that grow around. you would be shocked the amount of plants that you can eat in your front yard or in your backyard and how beneficial they are. it's crazy to me that some people will be suffering from an illness inside their home, taking certain medications to just bandage it. And then meanwhile, something that could really heal them is like right out on their front lawn that they spray weed killers on. It's like,

Host (25:50)
We grew up in a time of never put anything in your mouth because you don't know what it is and then you...

Jodie (25:56)
Now I have this

two and a half year old that's eating everything and I'm wait, actually, I don't know if you can eat that. Well, maybe, let me Google it. I'm like, hold on. But it's cool to watch her just see plants instinctually be like, mm, yeah, okay, eating this.

Host (26:10)
That's what kids do, Everything in the mouth. Yeah, that's really interesting.

Jodie (26:13)
And it's so easy, it's easier than we think. You know, to just pop the heads off dandelions and rinse them off and let them dry out in the sun. Put them in a mason jar and store them in your cupboard all winter long and then you just throw them in some hot water for some like nice tea. Dandelion TP vitamins, know.

Host (26:29)
Yeah It's

not funny where you think of dandelion tea and it seems like an odd concept but like we have mint tea all the time it is

Jodie (26:39)
know, mulling grows wild here also super beneficial for us and our lungs.

Host (26:44)
Yeah, that's really interesting.

Jodie (26:46)
we want to teach more people about that because I'm still learning. I said, Danielle Crowe has been a fantastic resource and every time I'm with her I'm learning so much. But we want to be able to bring that to the community as well.

Host (26:58)
I love how it's all local, it's all about the land here and the plants here. That's got a, that's cool. Yeah.

Jodie (27:02)
Yeah.

we just went to actually to Egypt a couple months ago learning about the history of Egypt the pyramids the Sphinx and how the Sphinx was possibly before the pyramids by thousands of years and them recently finding structures under the pyramids that are down 600 and some odd meters all these different periods of time that are quite spaced out all

Pinpoints back to the location which would then be marked by the stars and the constellations. And so again, I don't think we're We've kind of tried to fit ourselves into this Monday to Friday eight to five grind schedules since you know after the wars and just When I think it's important to recognize that ancient history looked at the stars a lot. They looked at the constellations and

planetary alignments, know, the moon cycles, like women's bodies create life depending on where the moon is, you know, harvesting techniques. I've just been paying more attention to that. If you work in a daycare at airport, a hospital, you know when it's a full moon, even before you know it's a full moon because of people's energies. there's a lot of extra crazy things that happen around those times.

it's funny to me to think that why aren't we paying attention to that as much as we once were? I feel like maybe we're coming back to that now with, I guess, Age of Aquarius and stuff like that. after visiting Egypt, I was like, right, yeah, this makes sense to pay attention to where the planets are aligned and how that might affect our personal energies and how we can work with it as opposed to against it.

Host (28:40)
Wow. a very interesting person.

Jodie (28:42)
⁓

Just stuff I've been... Just paying more attention to myself. What sparked it? I was performing at Redbird and I've been performing there a few times over the years and I just felt so nervous one day. The whole time I was performing I felt nervous. I felt like I just didn't want to be up there and I thought that's really interesting because I've been on stage lots, I've been there lots, same sort of crowd.

Host (29:07)
Have you had that feeling before?

Jodie (29:08)
every now and then really Introverted. Yeah, and so I started in March. I just documented every day journaling What my energy feels like that day and where the moon is that day? Just for me personally to see and I noticed a bit of a pattern following in April Or sorry actually I started this in February. So April was actually the first month that I Scheduled myself

in accordance to the moon. Because there were certain days I recognized that I just shouldn't be out in public.

Host (29:42)
Can you associate that more to the moon than our menstrual cycles?

Jodie (29:46)
⁓ well, I think our menstrual cycles are in line with the moon a lot of the times, maybe not everybody's, but mine sure are. ⁓ So I think, yeah, my, cycles are definitely quite in line with the moon phases. And I noticed that just certain periods like deep rest and recharge days. these are the days that I should either be in nature or in water or at home, but they're not the days that I should be.

putting on a presentation, not the days I should be teaching, not the days I should be performing. Like think there's different times and places to express and move energy and times to abundance and get that back energy to you. I realized I was always trying to fit into some sort of corporate schedule all the time. And now just this last month and this month, I'm like, ⁓ no, these are the days that I deep rest and recharge.

Host (30:39)
Do you find it's predictable?

Jodie (30:41)
Yeah, like I said, I'm just going off the moon. I just made my calendar for May. I just pointed out where the full moon is, where the new moon is. ⁓ You know, full moon's a time for celebration and kind of enlightenment and new moon seems to be a time for planning. I've kind of structured my weeks that way. I'm trying anyway. This is new. I'm just trying it out. okay, this week is more of time for meetings, time for planning, time for

get to business. Okay, this is more time for rest and recharge. This is time actually better for long distance running even I'm trying to even narrow it down to that.

Host (31:15)
⁓ I think it'd be fascinating to catch up with you in a few months too and just check in and see how it's going. Because it's relatively...

Jodie (31:22)
I was very new. yeah, yeah. This is like just second month in. Yeah, I'm already feeling so much more aligned. It's crazy. I was just there was just certain flags that I'm like, why? Why would I try and express myself and put out energy and give energy when I'm just not in the place to do it? But I wasn't tuning in enough to know that. And plus, when you make your schedule in advance, you can't always predict that stuff.

But now I'm trying to predict it with just where my cycles are, where the moon is, where planetary alignments are, and then moving with that. Yeah.

Host (31:55)
Yeah. Well, that's interesting. Yeah.

I've never heard, I've never heard. I'm a bit blown away. I've never heard of that before.

Jodie (32:01)
shocking to me that we don't do that, especially as women, like I said, because so much of their tides, earth, harvests, literally our cycles is dictated by the gravitational pull of the moon to some degree. Why are we just kind of going along like we'll just fit in anybody's box?

it's probably gonna be beneficial for me for my daughter for my family to Try and figure out where my energy is best spent at different times

Host (32:28)
your

best you yeah right yeah ⁓ what's it like performing at redbird it's great

Jodie (32:34)
Great.

my gosh, I can't say good enough things about Redbird. We came to Kelowna at a pretty cool time because Kelowna has always been this hot little bubble of music.

it was popular as a thriving music community with Datsic and Excision back in the day with electronic music and then kind of fizzled out. then it was re-emerging again with all these great live music venues Doc Willoughby's and I can't think of any others at the top of my head, but there was lots and then COVID happened. we lost a lot of those live music venues. And we happened to be in Kelowna, I don't know, four or five years into this at that.

that point and being up at the studio I always thought to myself there's so many amazing artists in Kelowna with nowhere for everybody to meet and I kept seeing them because I'd be up there and we were doing free recording so I was like how do I get everybody together I started compiling this roster

of just local musicians, people that offer different things. Because sometimes I have people coming from out of town, they want to record an album, but they're looking for a violinist, a bassist, a guitar player. Do I know any session players that can do that? I've started compiling a list and when I put it out there, people started messaging me back like, well, I do lights and I do video and I do this and here's my content. it's been cool watching that grow. I'll have it posted on our website eventually of just basically a local industry roster.

of all things kind of music and entertainment. since COVID though, there's been a real push in Kelowna, also thanks to Creative Okanagan, that's made having live performance venues a key priority necessity. since then we've seen Redbird, we've seen Revelry, they're amazing live venues. The new one that just opened up on the highway.

Kelowna Event Center, I think it's called. it's been great to watch more venues pop up now of different sizes, different kind of things that they're offering. And yeah, Redbird's been amazing. I think anyone can agree to that too. They put on some awesome shows, awesome events. The vibe they've curated is really good. Revelry as well. If you've never been to Revelry, go check out a concert there. The venue is very impressive. It's something that you'd find in Nashville.

Host (34:40)
⁓ cool yeah thinking of little venues back in the day my old boss used to open their house you've probably heard of this i can't remember the the name of it it would be cbc artists who were traveling across the country people were a part of this community and they would give them a place to sleep for free because they're just traveling bands and

they would host a concert and it would be a potluck. everybody would come and you'd all bring something to eat and you'd eat with the band. they'd move all the furniture out of their living room. they had all these little like foldy chairs and the band would perform all night, right there. That's how I heard of Sweet Alibi. And then they would pack up and go the next day to the next little.

town and stay with whoever and I thought oh this is so cool but you don't hear these little underground things very often you know it's just kind of word of mouth did you hear of that have you heard of that?

Jodie (35:34)
No,

but I, so far Sounds kind of does something kind of similar. They just do pop-up events in all different kinds of spaces. Homes, small venues, big venues, yeah. They just kind of curate the vibe and then people will play in a really intimate setting.

Host (35:50)
Yeah,

there's nothing like live music and it feels different. guess the energy, right? The energy is different.

Jodie (35:57)
Yeah,

and that's kind of what it is up at frequency inside our capacity is only 41 or 42 and up on the rooftop It's 98 so up in the rooftop it can be a bit of a bit more of a live event party But inside when we have those open mics, it's it's small. It's intimate, which is why it's so special

Host (36:12)
you got such a cool thing going. I really appreciate you taking the time and aligning your schedule. Thank you. Yeah, that's pretty cool. you'll have to say hi to Lynn for us. But should we wrap it up? Sure. Okay,

Jodie (36:16)
I appreciate you.

Thank you much. I will.